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So Much Disdain For the Wealthy Out There

May 22, 2009 by Daniel Euergetes Leave a Comment

I inadvertently bumped into the blog at Gator-Byte.com and what I found there was not too appetizing to say the least.

I couldn’t let this pass without posting to the blog…

Some of these posts make me sick! I mean it!

Booulaaagh! Now I’ve got to clean up the mess…

How Tellman Knudson’s The Listbuilding Club relates to this post,

“The last time an internet opportunity reeked this bad was when the RFS was floating heavily around the internet. The famous ‘beach bum’ pulling in millions an hour by suckering poor individuals into coughing up a $50 “tire kicker weeder outer fee” and then being told that in order to make money they had to pony up another $2995.”

…is a sheer mystery to me! I absolutely see no correlation between this and LBC!

The person who wrote this haggled over one dollar! Pretty damned good deal for the price and it might as well be as if it were free!

Was surprised that he had to whip out his credit card! I don’t believe that dollar is any sort of profit!

Puts the information given in the LBC lessons down because that’s supposed to make everybody who comes into it rich…but forgets the fact that it’s not the information at fault – its the members who have varying degrees of financial prowess, work ethics, determination, ambition, etc. Some will and some won’t – it’s reality!

Wants to do little work and make a lot of money anyway. Forgets that Tellman had to work very hard to get to a condition like this – and is usually the case with any other wealthy person at first! That’s the trouble with the Internet – Unscrupulous marketers prey on this human flaw and is why so many get-rich-quick schemes abound. Really give programs like this a bad name.

I hardly think Tellman’s programs fall in this category! Go to college and get a good education so you can land a great career – some do and some don’t…whose fault is that?

Yes, some of the first few videos are pretty basic! Get a domain name from GoDaddy and hosting from HostGator. Yes, that’s basic but it sounds like this writer did not bother to go into the “Lessons” menu clearly seen in the tabline at the top of the website. It abounds with some pretty challenging information well done in a clear fashion by Brian Edmunson.

It also sounds like the writer already had a negative outlook on this program before he even looked into it.

Gaouleee! I won’t even go into the resulting posts left by other people who were attracted like a magnet to such misinformation.

I will say to those who posted in defense of Knudson, “My hat off to you!”

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I went for the one-dollar LBC deal and this thing about “hidden forced continuity programs…”

Not so with this program! You will find that if you pay closer attention to programs like this you won’t get burned like you think you have…

I remember when my mother subscribed to the Columubia House Records & Tape Club. In the 1970s when 8-track cartridges were king she went ahead and got her initial stack of country and western tapes. Wow! What a deal!

But then came the time when she had to fill out that card denying the “house selection” so she wouldn’t get it that month. However sometimes she totally forgot about the card and lo and behind!

…here comes that tape with the country and western band she didn’t like – or that she didn’t have the funds to pay for it that month. Sad to say, I used to get a kick out of her getting that tape and cussing over it!

“Goddamit!” I would hear her day as she cussed at it when she came home from work and found it in the mail.

She knew the implications. It was all right there in writing when she signed up for the deal.

It’s the same thing with Tellman Knudson’s The ListBuilding Club. This is for you people who are complaining about the subscription that comes with the one-dollar deal!

It’s even better than the Columbia House Record and Tape Club! Whose fault is it if YOU don’t read the sales page? Why, you could have just used the thirty days and canceled! Couldn’t do that with Columbia House in the 1970s or now for that matter until you satisfy your agreement of buying x amount of units at regular club prices.

I had no problem knowing these concessions! It’s right there in black and white. People just want stuff for next to nothing! Golly! I see nothing wrong with this program! It did me a world of good helping me put stuff on my blog and I have indispensable knowledge now because of that program. Yes, I did stay in it for a few months until I felt I had enough of it down to proceed without it. Had I the funds I would probably continue with it.

The video and audio banks are getting progressively larger and I don’t think the addition of a single lesson per month (which includes anywhere from four to eight videos and a couple teleseminar recordings) is worth paying the $67 but for the first few months digesting all the materials, in my opinion, it’s well worth it.

I had no problem canceling my subscription. I did it the way they wanted it done and it was a done deal. I can’t get into the Member’s Area now but they didn’t charge me either.

For you complainers out there…

OVERCOME EVERYTHING EVEN TOLD ME THAT IF AND WHEN I COME BACK TO THE CLUB THEY’D GIVE ME TWO MONTHS FREE!!! How’s THAT for a deal? No, if you are in the club now, don’t be canceling just so you can have them bestow something like this to you. Too many people do it, well you know what would happen.

With several, if not many thousands of people subscribed in the various programs they can’t possibly attend to each and everybody personally!

That’s common sense.

It’s not Overcome Everything’s fault if some of you could not delay gratification long enough to READ the sales page or where ever the concessions of joining this club was written! Remember this and you will go farther…

Some people make it happen…
Some people let it happen…
Others say, “WHAT HAPPENED?”

The entitlement mentality has surely grown like cancer!

Learn how to be accountable for your actions and DON’T blame Tellman Knudson because all the sudden you are being charged $67 and you’re going, “WHAT????”

It’s not very often anything like this comes without a price and for goodness sake, you get such value for a buck for a month! What more do you want?

Yes, I hate the email I get from Overcome Everything. It’s pretty hypish like you find with some of these new millionaires. They’re a tad too slap-happy, but wouldn’t you be if you suddenly began bringing in a fortune? You can always unsubscribe from the list or do like I do – delete them.

I’ve been subscribed to this company when it was known as “the ListCrusade.” The guy was living in a crowded apartment with other people sharing it and dogs and cats, a crappy cobbled-up computer and a crappy car.

I’d love to be in his place right now – not having to answer to a company that I work for and be controlled by it even in my “spare” time – if there’s such a thing spare time in the life of a wage slave. I’m sure if I were to break out of this crummy lifestyle I’d have people badmouthing me because I have freedom that they only dream of.

If this company did anything unethical I’d be right in there with you all. I read it before I entered the deal.

If you read it you’d know better. If you did read it and knew there was a charge and then shot off your post like some of those above then you are the unethical one and very mean too!

They did nothing wrong.

Now I’ve finished with my rant hopefully one of two of you will reconsider what you said. Slam me and flame me all you want if this angers you but if you do it then it is a further reflection on you.

I will end this with one more statement from the writer above,

“When all is said and done, it’s up to each person to decide if they want to partake in a system like this; after all it is possible that I’m wrong in my assumptions about Mr. Knudsons [sic] integrity. Check out the information, form your own opinions and feel free to discuss it here in the comments section. I look forward to reading what you have to say.”

I wonder how long my post will stay up on this blog if it even makes it to where it is visible to the public.

If it does then I do have to take my hat off to the owner of this blog or whoever wrote the pilot post because he’s exercising good sportsmanship.

Thus I posted in the blog at Gator-Byte.

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On Employment and Labor

May 5, 2009 by Daniel Euergetes Leave a Comment

05-05-09_New Blog Post for ‘If a Man Will Not Work’

My blog activities have gone on hold for four months now. It is time to put something here –

The fact that I do take a stance that I do with regard to employment still gets certain individuals worked up over the my apparent disregard for laboring. I do not have anything at all against laboring. I strongly feel it is good for all to do this. We were designed in our very physical beings to perform labor.

Nor am I against employment.

What???

What I do not like to see is the wasting of talent and creativity that gets lost in certain kinds of employment that occurs when a person’s passion and purpose in life gets mismatched with his or her position. Generally speaking, employment for most people means getting caught up in a rut, doing a routine they would rather not do, but do it because it never occurs to them that there is more to life than such a lifestyle. Far to often passion gets pushed back with intention that one day they will be pursued. For some this gets pushed right off their lifespans. That’s sad!

I’m not knocking people nor their intelligence.

If you are reading this post and get offended by some of what I write here, I will be quick to say that the reasons why you are tired and broke (like me) is because in your early life you were “programmed” to believe the way you do with regard to getting a job. I am targeting those of you who work in low income jobs you had to endeavor out of necessity. I know you are out there and can relate to the feelings you have deep inside yourself. I see it every day where I work.

I am fully aware that there are cases where employment is both fulfilling and rewarding. About 21% of the entire population of the working class are passionate about their job positions.

What about the 79%?

Very few are all out eager to get up, leave their homes, and do the mundane work they do each and every work day. Many of you have applied religious work-around to your situation and that works fine. I have no qualms about that. What I do have a problem with is many of you have been led to believe that it is a virtue to live this way. This belief puts you in a prison needlessly. God never said you have to do what you do for the sake of “just passing through” this life. When I talk about virtue here I refer to that belief where the attainment of wealth on the earth is wrong. If this were so then Solomon was dead wrong! I strongly believe that it is not the act of being wealthy that is wrong but the wrong attitude about it when having attained wealth.

In my own words, without consulting a dictionary, wealth is synonymous with “blessings.” Many, when they hear the word “wealth,” think money. This is not all there is to wealth. If this were so then people who have wealth in this regard are miserable. Now I may be wrong and way off with my definition of wealth being blessings, but I do know that wealth has much more to do than with money alone.

Another way to look at wealth is “abundance.” Few will argue that wealth does take this attribute. One can be poor monetarily but yet be wealthy! The virtues of human existence fit nicely under this thing we call abundance. Yet there are people out there who believe that lack and poverty are traits of virtue. NO SUCH THING! Anybody who believes this have been brainwashed in some way.

Today I had a conversation with “Slavica,” a supervisor I had when I worked for Sodexho at Florida College. We talked about employment and attaining wealth. The very first thing she brought up was the idea that it was wrong to be wealthy, that only certain people are privileged with such an existence. “You’ve got to be born into wealth.” she told me. All I could do was sit there and have compassion for her and then attempt to explain that this was a figure of a limiting belief that many people hold.

This belief definitely will keep otherwise highly successful people in mediocrity.

The common beliefs that being wealthy is wrong, rich people are bad, that they steal from the poor and attain their wealth in other insidious ways to such who believe this way makes scarcity and victim mentality virtuous. Sure, there are individuals out there who have gotten rich monetarily through such means but this does not in any way mean they are wealthy! The media has also played a tremendous role in the formulation of such erroneous beliefs amongst the masses. To hold such beliefs about all wealthy people whether or not it is intentional does injustice, moreover, prejudice, against those who have truly and ethically acquired wealth.

The belief that being rich or wealthy is insidious is widely held by the working class, especially low wage and is one of the characteristics of employee mentality. Schools generally teach little or nothing about the subjects of money and wealth outside of standard business education and mathematics. How to manage money, risk management, investing are all vital to the proper understanding of wealth but that is not all there is with regard to education that gets left out. Self discipline, gratitude, the responsible management of resources, creativity, and many other subjects form the well-rounded education that it takes to become wealthy. These things typically do not have high priority in the standards of education as administered by our school systems which is geared more towards producing working-class citizens.

Employment does have its place for without it business as we know it could not stand. It is vital to commerce. There will always be a working class and there always had been one in every culture. Employment and laboring for a living is inescapable for most people. However, wealth, being rich, employment, the employee, victim mentality, employee mentality, abundance, poverty, scarcity, education, and many more topics need to be viewed in the light that they truly are and not what they are commonly believed to be.

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Such passages as, “If a man will not work, neither shall he eat.” hinge on being apathetic about labor, being lazy, irresponsible, individuals who refuse to “fill their space.” It does not mean one must get a job and live the life of employment if he has the desire to go beyond this. All too often biblical passages like this are imposed on those who seek entrepreneurial or proprietorial lifestyles but are in process of self education in such attainments. I do believe, however, that if employment is expedient for the time being for such who are endeavoring to educate themselves for such attainments until such time these become viable and profitable, the passage is applicable.

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